A recording from Joy-Ann Reid and Steve Schmidt’s live video. The two political commentators recall being together on election night 2016 as it became clear Donald Trump would win, describing a shared sense of shock among both Republicans and Democrats in the room. They discuss how they believed Trump lacked the reverence and character expected of a president, and how his time in office confirmed those concerns. They then reflect on how, ten years later, integrity and truth-telling seem to be punished in politics and media, while those who embraced Trump’s lies have been rewarded.


